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Warrior Culture 101

This post is in reponse to a comment made by Molaviis Fromm on my last blog entry, which you can see in it’s entirety here or read just below in red italics:

The US society needs warriors like it needs a hole in the head. Empires need warriors. Republics need citizens who can form a good sight pattern, perhaps fire a mortar, know basic first aid, perhaps mix some ingredients to make something go boom at the appropriate time and place, but most importantly are capable of critical thinking.

It seems to me that people who sell a warrior culture are trying to sell canals 30 years after the railroad has been developed. This warrior culture has wrapped itself in so much disinformation that those who perpetuate it fool themselves as well as impressionable young people. Warrior equals Samurai.With out scientists Americas warriors would be much redder in the face. Whether it would be from blood or embarrassment is hard to say.

The best analogy is that Americas warriors are the Sopranos of the planet. Ok Tony’s psychologist was secretly pleased about what Tony did to the man that raped her. None the less it is perfectly clear that she totally detests him and everything that he stands for and will make every effort to reform him. The fact that Tony may now and then do a good deed does not make him a good person.Especially when those good deeds are done to further the aims of a continuing criminal enterprise. Many of my fellow Americans say that America does not wish to dominate other countries. Hhahahahahaha what a crock of propaganda bullshit. If you want an example of a country that does not try to dominate other countries look at Ireland or Finland. The US is about the worst example in that regard.

If you wish to personally discuss this issue with me you can find me at US Army Garrison Schinnen Netherlands, or AFNORTH Brunssum Netherlands. Perhaps you can help me understand why a gay or lesbian person would fight to stay in the service of the 21st Century US mercenary occupation forces.Now you can not delete my comments and then say that you defend free speech, or can you? OK, it is illegal for someone writing an opinion to give their rank and branch of service. I can say that LTC Fern O. Sumpter, Commander, Schinnen Army Garrison, has been a great inspiration to me.I only hope that I can return the favor.Curt KastensAFNORTH, Joint Forces Command ID Number 122234

To: Molaviis
From: America’s 1st Sgt.
Re: Your Recent comment on Castra Praetoria

According to you, republics need only citizens with a passing familiarity of shooting skills, heavy weaponry, and enough knowledge of chemistry to concoct some homemade explosive. Frankly, that sounds like your average Al Queda cell.

You also say the most important characteristic is they be capable of critical thinking. This could be the only thing I might agree with you on.

Let’s define warrior first: A person engaged or experienced in warfare; soldier. A person who shows or has shown great vigor, courage, or aggressiveness. One who is engaged aggressively or energetically in an activity, cause, or conflict.

Now when you have a pest control problem do you call someone who has a passing interest in mixing insecticide chemicals or do you call someone engaged or experienced in vector control; a professional exterminator? Generally, I find when a professional isn’t put on the job, the enterprise will end in disaster.

So when it is time to wage war we can agree it should be waged by someone with some proficiency in combat arms.

Certainly there is nothing wrong with being a citizen soldier; simply do your tour and move on with your life. I am all about that. It doesn’t make them any less a professional while they are in the service though.

You claim warrior culture has wrapped itself in disinformation, but gave no examples of this. “Warrior equals Samurai.” Well, yes, it can. Samurai is derived from a word meaning servant or one who serves. I don’t think it is wrong to perpetuate or impress on young people the idea of service to something other than themselves is anything other than noble.

Although technology is a great force multiplier, it is not what wins battles. The American armed forces and other Western armies have had success in war not because of scientists, but for other reasons which I don’t have the time to get into. Victor Davis Hanson has written a great book on the subject called Carnage and Culture.

You equate the professional American warrior with a fictitious criminal organization comprised of thugs, thieves, and other undesirables. The difference between a thug and a professional warrior? The thug is completely self oriented, anything he does is justifiable in his eyes because it furthers his own agenda. The warrior is other oriented. His agenda is not about himself, but those to his immediate left and right; to his unit; his society. His actions may not be justifiable, if they violate the ethics and values of his society or organization. Tony Soprano would never have made it in the Corps. His fundamental character flaws would not have been tolerated by his fellow Marines or the Corps, institutionally. Tony, here’s your Bad Conduct Discharge; thank you for playing.

Many of your fellow Americans say America does not wish to dominate other countries? I have never said that. It certainly has never appeared here on the august pages of Castra Praetoria. As a matter of fact, I am all about dominating anyone and everyone who has shown they are a threat to American lives and society.

The U.S. is the worst example in regards to dominating others? As opposed to Iran? North Korea? China?

Why would a gay or lesbian person stay in the service? I don’t have the faintest idea, but they do.

Finally, you label the U.S. military as mercenaries. A mercenary, according to the Geneva Convention, is someone “motivated to take part in the hostilities essentially by the desire for private gain and, in fact, is promised, by or on behalf of a party to the conflict, material compensation substantially in excess of that promised or paid to combatants of similar ranks and functions in the armed forces of that Party.” For the most part we who consider ourselves professionals (in the armed forces of a sovereign nation) pretty much hate on mercenaries. I’m talking about your Blackwater, Ageis, and what have you. They aren’t doing what they do for the same reasons we are. A mercenary is not governed by the principles of his society or institutional values.

But what are the core values of the professional warrior culture that you rail against? Why, I’m glad you asked. Taken right off www.marines.com

Honor: Marines are held to the highest standards, ethically and morally. Respect for others is essential. Marines are expected to act responsibly in a manner befitting the title they’ve earned.

Courage: Courage is not the absence of fear. It is the ability to face fear and overcome it. It is the mental moral and physical strength ingrained in every Marine. It steadies them in times of stress, carries them through every challenge and aids them in facing new and unknown confrontations.

Commitment: Commitment is the spirit of determination and dedication found in every Marine. It is what compels Marines to serve our country and the Corps. Every aspect of life in the Corps shows commitment, from the high standard of excellence to vigilance in training.

I suppose that the above is just more sewage pouring into impressionable young minds. Horrifying!

Here’s some more foolishness we try to perpetuate:

Leadership Traits

Justice – Giving reward and punishment according to merits of the case in question. The ability to administer a system of rewards and punishments impartially and consistently.

Judgment – The ability to weigh facts and possible solutions on which to base sound decisions.

Dependability – The certainty of proper performance of duty.

Integrity – Uprightness of character and soundness of moral principles; includes the qualities of truthfulness and honesty.

Decisiveness – Ability to make decisions promptly and to announce them in clear, forceful manner.
Tact – The ability to deal with others without creating offense.

Initiative – Taking action in the absence of orders.

Endurance – The mental and physical stamina measured by the ability to withstand pain, fatigue, stress and hardship.

Bearing – Creating a favorable impression in carriage, appearance and personal conduct at all times.

Unselfishness – Avoidance of providing for one’s own comfort and personal advancement at the expense of others.

Courage – The mental quality that recognizes fear of danger or criticism, but enables a man to proceed in the face of it with calmness and firmness.

Knowledge – Understanding of a science or an art. The range of one’s information, including professional knowledge and an understanding of your Marines.

Loyalty – The quality of faithfulness to country, the Corps, the unit, to one’s seniors, subordinates and peers.

Enthusiasm – The display of sincere interest and exuberance in the performance of duty.

Leadership Principles

• Know yourself and seek self-improvement.
• Be technically and tactically proficient.
• Develop a sense of responsibility among your subordinates.
• Make sound and timely decisions.
• Set the example.
• Know your Marines and look out for their welfare.
• Keep your Marines informed.
• Seek responsibility and take responsibility for your actions.
• Ensure assigned tasks are understood, supervised, and accomplished.
• Train your Marines as a team.
• Employ your command in accordance with its capabilities.

I can see where it would really rub some the wrong way to try and actually live up to and mold others to the attributes listed above. Concepts like personal accountability are rather unpopular these days, I get it. But that is what we are as a 21 Century warrior culture. Do all Marines live up to these standards? No, that is why we have the Uniform Code Of Military Justice. We also have a saying: If everyone could do it, it wouldn’t be the Marines.

Somewhere you picked up that being a warrior makes you morally corrupt. Not sure where that comes from. But you know what? Don’t take my word the Marine Corps actually stands for something noble and good. The following comes from an article written by Hunter C.S. Armstrong about his experience with Marines

“…there is the requirement that the constituents have the ability to fight and, just as important, are knowledgeable of the appropriate time for and responsibilities that come with fighting. They train for reasons that ultimately come from within and fight for reasons dictated by necessity and social responsibility. Similarly, with the Marines I met in Okinawa, ethics played a huge role in their identity as warriors. A moral system produces a cohesion and continuity within the team and professionalism in the execution of their work.”

And…

“The aspects that mark the distinction between soldiers and warriors can be put into two areas that are at the root of their professionalism: capability and responsibility.”

I fail to see how an organization rooted in an ethical, moral ideal which makes itself accountable for its actions is somehow dishonorable and a vehicle for disinformation and incapable of critical thinking. If anything, America needs more people who represent those ideals. That is why the Marine Corps puts great emphasis on returning great citizens back to the communities they came from.

Do I think you will be enlightened by my response?
Really that’s doubtful.
No, I do not wish to discuss this issue with you personally.
You’ve already made up your mind; why bother?

Could I delete your comments and still say I defend free speech? Absolutely! This is my blog and I’ll do as I please here thanks. You can start your own site and say anything you like. A lot of people do and I support it. THAT is free speech.

Hopefully, this has been an informative introduction to what a warrior culture is really about.

Semper Fidelis,

America’s 1stSgt

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29 comments

  1. Awesome response, Mike. I had no need to comment on your last post, you have the situation well in hand…like a Marine always has it in hand.

    I think he may not be an American citizen, but he is a soldier, probably in the supply corps. But no one I would want covering my back.

    Thanks for being the professional and not stooping to his level. Semper Fi!

  2. I Love your response First Sergeant. No hate just facts. That is the best way to let these kool drinkers know how you feel. You were very professional and your response was right on the money.

    U.S. Army Retired

  3. “If anything, America needs more people who represent those ideals.” Amen to that! Those are ideals we should all strive to live by, professional warrior or not.
    Not only was your reply really well written, but it was nice to read a discourse based on facts rather than vitriol. Pissing matches don’t change anyone’s mind, but well thought-out arguments might. Well done.

  4. “If you want an example of a country that does not try to dominate other countries look at Ireland or Finland.”

    Ha ha ha ha ha! He’s confusing “does not try to” with “unable to even if they wanted to.”

    That’s a not very subtle distinction, in my opinion.

    Why don’t we look at a more realistic example? Say… Russia.

  5. To all the rallying troops,

    Thanks for your comments the past couple of days. Some of them were more passionate than I deserve and others made me laugh openly. In the future I do not think I will entertain trolls, goblins, leprechauns, or any fey folk prowling about. Open disagreement is welcome as long as it is accompanied by intelligent dialogue. That has not happened in this caseso I am dropping the matter and will resume regularly unscheduled programming. Now everybody get back in formation!

  6. Sir, yes, Sir!

    Thank you. I’m bookmarking this for my own purposes. You have perfectly described a warrior culture, and the traits I admire so well in our fighting men and women. Thank you for the fight, in the field and on the blogs.

  7. “If you want an example of a country that does not try to dominate other countries look at Ireland or Finland.”

    Not much of a historian is he? Russians are still smarting from their last big dance with Finns.

    As for the Irish…, Well it’s the age old question, “Do I drink or dominate? Drink or dominate? I think I’ll have another drink and think about it.”

  8. Seems this post is getting a lot attention.

    I blame Hope.

    Thanks for the positive feedback everyone. As a man of action, myresponse to being challenged to a “pissing contest” is generally a swift kick to the groin.

    I also thought the Ireland/Finland remark was interesting too. The Irishhave spread out all over the world and are among some of the fightingestraces of all time (fightingest is a real word because I say so). If it weren’t for whiskey the Irish would have conquered the world some time ago.

    And like be603 says, the Russians didn’t exactly have it all theirway last time they messed around in Finland and the Fins did it all on skis.

    Dave Harvey, I think tact is in there right under decisiveness. Onceagain, I blame my Admin.

  9. You shouldn’t blame Adman Hope. You should thank her for getting a well written articulate message about the warrior culture out to the masses. You did a great job with your response and it deserves to be read world wide, and Hope is making that happen.

  10. Well said, Top.

    But,if MolaviisFromm is so dead set against warriors, why is he working at NATO HQ at Brunsuum? I worked with a few soldiers out of that command when I was in Kabul and they exemplified warrior behavior, regardless of their actual job.

  11. I would like to repeat an idea for those who are hard of hearing and apparently did not understand the first time that I said it. US service members have confused the general idea of military service with service in the 21st Century US military. If someone really wants to serve honorably as a warrior in the 21st Century there is no place better than in the Finnish or Irish Military.
    Your First Sargent has printed a bunch or core miltary values and traits, BIG DEAL. Every soldier of every Army for the past 100 years has received this same pitch, including the Wehrmacht.
    Stop and think for a monement what these values actually support.
    Well the chain of command says that they support our freedom. If the US Marines and the US Army were not here to protect me, I might get hurt by the Chinese or Osama bin Laden. But I am not afraid of the Chinese or Osama bin Laden in the first place. In the America that I grew up in attempts to collect money and support from people by claiming to protect them was called extortion and people were put in prison for it. The idea that the Chinese are going to threaten our country and Constitution is paranoid. They have not even started to build the huge Amphibious Assault Fleet that they would need to to do such a thing. Perhaps Osama could hurt me but Obama is a much closer and bigger threat.
    Citizens do not need warriors to protect them from such threats. Wariors are Samurai and like the Samurai they serve feudal warlords.
    They oppress poor farmers. They claim to be your protectors but they strut around and kick uppitty farmers in the groin for questioning their authority. A Samurai is after all a noble profession. This forced poor farmers to develop a new set of tactics to defend themselves from the Samurai. The Samurai saw these tactics as dishonorable and became even more enraged.
    End of part one.

  12. Now let us look at how well you so called warriors actually protect us.
    Well you have a budget greater than all of the other armies of the world put together, and you have bases spread all over the world. Yet on Sept. 11th when you were tested, how well did you protect us? In the America that I grew up in such misappropriation of funds was called embezzlement and you could go to prison for it. Now days embezzlers give themselves titles like General or Banker and they are given billion dollar bonuses and promotions and time on Fox News as an Expert.
    In so much political literature about how America needs to protect ITS access to strategic resources overseas. In the America that I grew up in If you went in to someones house that was not yours with a gun and shot the property owner because he had pointed a gun at you were a thief and a murderer and would be sent to prison if you were caught.
    Armies have always dressed up their theft and murder with legal jargon. Not only did the Wehrmacht do it, so did the European countries who were trying to maintain their empires even AFTER World War Two. If the invasion of Iraq was not a war of aggression there is no such thing!
    We even dressed up our invasion with the same legal jargon that the Germans used to invade and occupy Norway.
    No the US military does not work in Mysterious ways. It makes contact with people when they are young and stupid. It sweet talks them. Then it abuses them and breaks down their natural humanity. Then it sends them out to work for it. They take it in the gut, in the chest and even in the eye. The soldiers are then praised to make them feel good about themselves. That way some of them will stick around and lure other naive young people in to a life of abuse and sadism. Is there really a difference between an Officer and a Pimp? Yes, the officers have flashier clothes.
    So tell me all you squad leaders, and platoon sargents and first sargents is it noble yet? I can see who being an officer or nco in the military is like being is like being an extortionist, an embezzler, a thief, and murder and a pimp, but when does it get noble like being a farmer or a barber?
    You say What! You say it is noble because you do it all for your countrymen including people like me who do not appreciate your sacrifices! Hahahahaha. I get it you are trying to build an insanity defense. Well you better come to me for help on that because it is going to have to be a good one.
    End of part Two.

  13. Some young service members may object to being called stupid. That is because no one in authority has told them that turning 18 is to adulthood what conception is to being human. Our society recognizes that 18 year olds do not have the maturity to buy alcohol. The real tragedy is that 18 year olds do not understand that the real tragedy is that they are allowed to join the military.
    There is one value that the military does not talk about and that is betrayal. When you look at what the foreign policy goals of our society have become the core values espoused by our military leaders have become nothing but dull butter knives that could not cut through mustard.
    If you look at the broad picture of what the institutions that you are working in actually do each day every act that you do, every breath that you take is a betrayal of these values that I learned growing up in the mid west in the 1960s and 70s.
    Am I going to support this with example after example, which I could do. No. There are people who through their life experiences know this to be true and there are others who will not be convinced by an endless amount of examples.
    Only a miracle could do it. Unfortunately I have never seen an event that I could say for certain was a miracle.
    End of part three

  14. Allow me to further demonstrate how insane that I have become. I believe that it is better to convert your enemies rather than kill them.
    But it is difficult to know if an enemy or adversary is actually converted or just pretending to be converted. One way would be for them to deliver classified information or technology. But not everyone has access to such things.
    Another would be to commit an act of sedition or sabotage. But such acts can be faked. By the way I always get a kick out of those who get bent out of shape by those who use free speech to commit acts of sedition as if using free speech to launch a war of aggression half way around the world is not a much bigger outrage. When I hear someone talking about military values that has gone half way around the world to attack and occupy a country that has not attacked his, I consider that person unfit to run a kindergarten let alone lead children in to battle. The Hell’s Angels have more integrity. They do not claim to be working for our benefit.
    Finally someone can prove that they have converted to your side by killing the people who had been on their side, if it is a wartime situation. Not if we are talking about whether or not to plant genetically modified corn for example.
    End of part 4.

  15. The comment that was made about dominating the people of Iraq and Afghanistan before they can harm Americans was the same line used by leading NAZI General Jodl himself about the Polish, Russian, and French people. The unforgivable thing is that NATO Officers and NCOs
    are supposed to be smarter than the average beautician. It is even more unforgivable for people in authority to exaggerate the threat posed by people half way around the world. It is extremely unforgivable to try to say that the American people are innocent and those few who do wish to really harm Americans do not have legitimate political grievances.

    American military personnel may soon have more than blood on their hands. They may soon be up to their necks in blood. US forces may soon be asked to launch a “preemptive” war on Iran, a country that has not launched a war in over 2000 years. The American people have already turned their backs on the Iranian people twice. These acts of betrayal in 1953 and again in 1980 when our military gave material and technical support to the Butcher of Baghdad to help the Iraqis in their blatant war of aggression against Iran has already cost the lives of hundreds of thousands young Iranians. Like Peter will we deny the Iranians a third time?
    Have no doubt that an attack on Iran will be viewed by most Iranians as their Pearl Harbor. The huge Iranian opposition movements have made it clear that they do not even want sanctions imposed on their country, let alone an attack. Once this escalation in violence gets moving the US military will be forced to kill millions of Iranians to maintain their positions in the Middle East. All this just because America’s leaders and their followers are not interested in living in a world that they can not dominate.
    End of part five

  16. Even George Washington supports my view. How do I know this? Because one day last summer I was walking through a forest of Oak, Maple, Birch, and Aspen, on a calm day when suddenly a twig began floating to the ground in front of me. The twig had three Cherry Tree leaves attached to it. There was not a cherry tree in sight. Now I am sure that you say give me a break. Do you expect me to fall for such a stupid illogical argument. The only response left is that you already have.
    Is it not a rule of a good warrior that that you should not believe any information not approved by your chain of command? In a war the enemy may be telling you the truth. Yet you are programed to ignore it. You kill on command.
    That makes warriors the ultimate carbon based robots.
    Glory glory hallelujah the truth is marching on!
    A society of citizens does not need even one warrior to protect them let alone a whole US Marine Corp. A society of intelligent citizens would know that warriors are much more likely to become your oppressors rather than your saviors. You macho warriors make me so angry if I met you in a dark alley I could strangle you myself with my bare hands. I accept only grasshoppers as my protectors.
    America’s First Sergent it is time that you learn that I have been appointed as your real XO. Who has appointed me as your XO. The Commander did. You may want to speak to the Commander but she does not speak to those who lie, cheat and steal. She sometimes speaks to those who only tolerate liars, cheaters, and thieves, but they hardly ever hear her voice.
    I warn you she is a bitch that gives unfair tests that never come in the form that you would like to have them.
    1SGT, as your XO I suggest that you start gutting the Marine Corp.
    from the inside. Now you can reject my suggestion and remain true to your warrior code or you can begin a journey on a new path as a revolutionary citizen. Like the citizens of Valley Forge you will follow leaders who have nothing to offer you, not even a pair of shoes to stop your feet from bleeding in the snows of Afghanistan, let alone a college education. Like the soldiers at Valley Forge you will suffer defeat after defeat after defeat.
    Victory will only be a mirage on the horizon. As a revolutionary citizen you must not only be willing to make physical sacrifices you must be willing to become a despised outcast in your community, not only among those who have been your friends but even among your relatives. Not only will your sacrifices go unappreciated but they will not even be known to another human soul. Yes the way of the warrior is the way of the wimp. The path of a revolutionary citizen is the path from which no one returns alive.

    Until you receive further instructions you must operate as an ARMY OF ONE. I hope that is not to complex for a Marine.
    End of Part six

  17. “You macho warriors make me so angry if I met you in a dark alley Icould strangle you myself with my bare hands.”

    Now that isn’t aggressive, dominant, or murderous at all! So much for converting me I guess. I choose to leave your rant posted as is because it simply speaks for itself. Obviously we disagree at some very fundamental levels.

    Further hate filled rants by you will be exorcized with utmost prejudice. Buh-bye.

  18. Dear gang,

    Before everyone loses their mind and flames Mr. Molvaiis with inquiries into his genetic background, mental acuity, cognitive perspective, etc; realize that he posts his diatribes so those of you who have an emotional investment in me personally, what I represent,fallen comrades and family members, or America, will become furious andattack him. Unlike say, Hamas, he poses no actual threat. Feel free toput him on ‘pay no mind’.

    Semper Fidelis,
    America’s 1st Sgt.

  19. I will say, Mike, in most every argument there is a modicum of truth. Many things he says has bit of truth to it. The problem is, as with most Socialist people, the truth is stretched and twisted to fit his argument. All I have to say is, Mr. Who???

  20. “You macho warriors make me so angry if I met you in a dark alley Icould strangle you myself with my bare hands.”

    Well, no. He couldn’t. Perhaps that’s why he’s so angry?

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